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[img]http://tinyurl.com/mww4fg[/img]BREAKING IN YOUR NEW BIKE[img]http://209.85.62.24/144/153/0/e447008/e447008.jpg[/img]; - controversial method !!!!
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This is a very controversial topic !!

I wrote "Break-In Secrets" after successfully applying this method
to approximately 300 new engines, all without any problems whatsoever.

Links to this article now appear on hundreds of motorsports discussion forums from all over the world. The reason is that over time, large numbers of people have done a direct comparison between my method and the owner's manual method, and the news of their success is spreading rapidly.

The results are always the same... a dramatic increase in power at all RPMs. In addition, many professional mechanics have disassembled engines that have used this method, to find that the condition of the engine is much better than when the owner's manual break-in method has been used.

The thing that makes this page so controversial is that there have been many other break-in articles
written in the past which will contradict what has been written here.

Several factors make the older information on break-in obsolete.

The biggest factor is that engine manufacturers now use a much finer honing pattern in the cylinders than they once did. This in turn changes the break-in requirements, because as you're about to learn, the window of opportunity for achieving an exceptional ring seal is much smaller with
newer engines than it was with the older "rough honed" engines.

In addition, there is a lot less heat build up in the cylinders from ring friction
due to the finer honing pattern used in modern engines.

The other factors that have changed are the vastly improved metal casting and machining
technologies which are now used. This means that the "wearing in" of the new parts
involves significantly less friction and actual wear than it did in the distant past.


With that in mind ...BREAKING IN YOUR BIKE........



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Yeah - But ...
the owner's manual says to break it in easy ...

Notice that this technique isn't "beating" on the engine, but rather taking a purposeful, methodical approach to sealing the rings. The logic to this method is sound. However, some will have a hard time with this approach, since it seems to "go against the grain".

The argument for an easy break-in is usually: "that's what the manual says" ....

Or more specifically: "there are tight parts in the engine and you might do damage or even seize it if you run it hard."

Consider this:
Due to the vastly improved metal casting and machining technologies which are now used, tight parts in new engines are not normal. A manufacturing mistake causing a tight clearance is an extremely rare occurrence these days. But, if there is something wrong with the engine clearances from the factory, no amount of gentle running will fix the problem.

The real reason ???
So why do all the owner's manuals say to take it easy for the first thousand miles ???


This is a good question ...


  • Q: What is the most common cause of engine problems ???
    A: Failure to:
    Warm the engine up completely before running it hard !!!

  • Q: What is the second most common cause of engine problems ???
    A: An easy break in !!!

  • Q: What's the third most common cause of engine problems ???
    A: Not changing the oil soon enough after the engine is first run !!


Because, when the rings don't seal well, the blow-by gasses contaminate the oil with acids and other harmful combustion by-products !!

Ironically, an "easy break in" is not at all what it seems. By trying to "protect" the engine, the exact opposite happens, as leaky rings continue to contaminate your engine oil for the rest of the life of your engine !!

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These Honda F3 pistons show the difference.
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The piston on the right was broken in as per MotoMan's instructions.

After a full season of hard racing:

- Perfect Ring Seal ...
- No Scuffing ...
- Lots of Trophies !!!


Although these pistons came out of engines which were raced for a full season, they weren't set-up with any special clearances or other preparation.

These engines were never worked on prior to being raced. They were totally stock as built by Honda.

The only difference was the break in method they used...

The one on the right was broken in as per MotoMan's instructions.

The one on the left was broken in exactly according to the owner's manual. The resulting leaky rings have allowed pressure to "blow by" down into the crankcase on acceleration, and oil to "suck-up" into the combustion chamber on deceleration.
Needless to say, this bike was slow !!

It's up to you:
The loss in power from an easy break-in and the resulting poor ring seal can be
anywhere from 2% - 10% !!

In other words:
The gain in power from using this break-in method can be anywhere from 2% - 10% !!



3 more words on break- in:
NO SYNTHETIC OIL !!

Use Valvoline, Halvoline, or similar 10 w 40 Petroleum Car Oil for at least
2 full days of hard racing or 1,500 miles of street riding / driving.
After that use your favorite brand of oil.




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Even on an oldschool car engine, you want to run it in at high throttle.

The key is to keep the RPM down, and the cylinder pressure up. That pushes the rings down harder, and makes them bed into the position they end up in when you apply full power. Full power, and maximum cylinder pressure, is also when you get the most wear.

One thing it doesn't mention. The most important part to break in. The camshafts. For the first 20 mins of use, keep it at 2000rpm ish. If you let it idle, it knackers the cam lobes. Cams really have to be bedded in right, or they chew themselves up in a few thousand miles. I've seen high lift cams with huge chunks missing.

Running in is easy really. First 500 miles, change up early, keep the throttle open, keep changing the engine rpm, but dont let it go beyond about 3/4 of the way to the redline. Use all the torque the engine has got, to keep the cylinder pressure right up. Then change your oil, because no matter how good the engine tolerances, it will be full of crap. Then gradually increase the maximum RPM you use.

The 2 stroke lot have been using high cylinder pressure running in for ages, and a lot of people are using it on road cars now. Some reckon this method works faster too, and 500 miles is plenty on a modern engine. It has good results on race engines too.. I know some people who take their new engine, put a standard head and cams on, plonk it in a road car, give it 500 miles of low rpm high load running in, and then the engine lasts 2 seasons on the track instead of 1. There are a shocking number of race engines that dont get run in at all.

Basically, the cylinder pressure you run the engine in at, is the cylinder pressure it will run best at for the rest of its life. On a motorbike, it will spend most of its life using all the torque it has. You just have to keep the RPM down, because wear goes up exponentially as you increase the revs. If the wear rate in a bearing being bedded in is too high, then it NEVER beds in, it just gets worse and worse.
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Modern diesel engines generally come with manufacturers recommendations that say something to the effect "no traditional running in necessary, just drive normally but don't race the engine for the first 1000km" (well as much as you can race a diesel engine). Compression is all important to diesels.

Note also that modern bike engines tend to have more ball/roller bearings and fewer slipper bearings than car engines so the issue of bearing run in is less important than it may be with car engines. This means that proper ring bed-in is the paramount factor in running in a bike engine. :THUMBSUP:
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Loading up the donk early on brings out the issues if youve scored yourself a lemon, so there is merits in giving it a little hiding during break in. Thats what i did. Icedog can vouch for that :)
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well geeman's did have more than 1000km on it when he bought it so most of the benefit of his riding style was lost ;)

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